Comments for Free as in Pizza http://freepizza.cc Twenty Second Century Socks Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:50:34 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 Comment on 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work by A canonical reading list for the future of news http://freepizza.cc/2009/03/14/10-ideas-i-want-to-try-at-the-newspaper-where-i-work/comment-page-1/#comment-231 A canonical reading list for the future of news Fri, 09 Apr 2010 04:50:34 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=274#comment-231 [...] 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work I dig the ideas Will has for community relationship management, as well as using data and APIs well. [...] [...] 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work I dig the ideas Will has for community relationship management, as well as using data and APIs well. [...]

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Comment on A Puzzle in Six Links by wam http://freepizza.cc/2009/11/02/a-puzzle-in-six-links/comment-page-1/#comment-202 wam Sun, 08 Nov 2009 05:21:40 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=338#comment-202 Got it in one! The octopi march to the sea. <em>[Ed. note: There is another prize-winning answer to be found.]</em> Got it in one! The octopi march to the sea. [Ed. note: There is another prize-winning answer to be found.]

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Comment on A Puzzle in Six Links by Abi http://freepizza.cc/2009/11/02/a-puzzle-in-six-links/comment-page-1/#comment-201 Abi Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:35:46 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=338#comment-201 A restaging of the battle of Gettysburg, where the North shall be played by highly intelligent navy octopi (who are good at getting through mazes). The grey kittens of the Confederacy will roll on their backs and Skype to a group of German American History students that they need their bellies rubbed. For refreshment they will be united at last over their choice of Pepsi Throwback. A restaging of the battle of Gettysburg, where the North shall be played by highly intelligent navy octopi (who are good at getting through mazes). The grey kittens of the Confederacy will roll on their backs and Skype to a group of German American History students that they need their bellies rubbed. For refreshment they will be united at last over their choice of Pepsi Throwback.

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Comment on Amazing “Garden Path” Headline from the New York Times by wam http://freepizza.cc/2009/05/12/amazing-garden-path-headline-from-the-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-106 wam Wed, 20 May 2009 17:05:02 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=287#comment-106 Damn internet. Damn internet.

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Comment on Amazing “Garden Path” Headline from the New York Times by Cronin http://freepizza.cc/2009/05/12/amazing-garden-path-headline-from-the-new-york-times/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Cronin Wed, 20 May 2009 16:33:16 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=287#comment-105 There are no secrets. There are no secrets.

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Comment on 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work by Scooping the News http://freepizza.cc/2009/03/14/10-ideas-i-want-to-try-at-the-newspaper-where-i-work/comment-page-1/#comment-103 Scooping the News Tue, 19 May 2009 03:05:54 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=274#comment-103 Back in March we provided our own take on this -- http://www.scoopingthenews.com/2009/03/five-suggestions-for-how-newspapers.html Here are five key elements present on the best blogs that newspapers should adopt: 1. Two-way communication between the writer and the reader. Reporters wouldn't be obligated to respond to every comment posted, but how about trying to respond to at least a few. 2. Links to similar stories being published elsewhere on the Web. What's wrong with acknowledging that other publications are providing their own perspectives on whatever the subject is that's being written about? 3. Show us reader comments on the very first page of your Web site. That accomplishes two important tasks: One, it lets us see what other readers care about and how they are reacting to the news, which can only enhance our news consuming experience by providing more viewpoints; and two, it helps bridge that invisible barrier between reporters and readers, which will enhance the sense of community that newspapers used to provide when everyone read them around the breakfast table. 4. Tell us, the readers, about the people writing the stories. 5. Don't worry about the presentation. Worry about giving us well-written and well-edited content. Back in March we provided our own take on this –

http://www.scoopingthenews.com/2009/03/five-suggestions-for-how-newspapers.html

Here are five key elements present on the best blogs that newspapers should adopt:

1. Two-way communication between the writer and the reader. Reporters wouldn’t be obligated to respond to every comment posted, but how about trying to respond to at least a few.

2. Links to similar stories being published elsewhere on the Web. What’s wrong with acknowledging that other publications are providing their own perspectives on whatever the subject is that’s being written about?

3. Show us reader comments on the very first page of your Web site. That accomplishes two important tasks: One, it lets us see what other readers care about and how they are reacting to the news, which can only enhance our news consuming experience by providing more viewpoints; and two, it helps bridge that invisible barrier between reporters and readers, which will enhance the sense of community that newspapers used to provide when everyone read them around the breakfast table.

4. Tell us, the readers, about the people writing the stories.

5. Don’t worry about the presentation. Worry about giving us well-written and well-edited content.

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Comment on 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work by Drew http://freepizza.cc/2009/03/14/10-ideas-i-want-to-try-at-the-newspaper-where-i-work/comment-page-1/#comment-101 Drew Tue, 19 May 2009 02:27:17 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=274#comment-101 Likewise. These sorts of ideas are exactly what papers need to attempt instead of just complaining that the information they generate is too easy to pirate and paraphrase. The information is important, but the tools and services that make it interactive and valuable matter just as much these days. Likewise. These sorts of ideas are exactly what papers need to attempt instead of just complaining that the information they generate is too easy to pirate and paraphrase. The information is important, but the tools and services that make it interactive and valuable matter just as much these days.

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Comment on 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work by wam http://freepizza.cc/2009/03/14/10-ideas-i-want-to-try-at-the-newspaper-where-i-work/comment-page-1/#comment-100 wam Tue, 19 May 2009 02:04:55 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=274#comment-100 @Riggs: We gotta do it. There must be at least an ad-hoc way that we can get a usable RSS feed out of the weekly listings dump. I'll talk to Brian and see what we can come up with. @Riggs: We gotta do it. There must be at least an ad-hoc way that we can get a usable RSS feed out of the weekly listings dump. I’ll talk to Brian and see what we can come up with.

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Comment on 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work by wam http://freepizza.cc/2009/03/14/10-ideas-i-want-to-try-at-the-newspaper-where-i-work/comment-page-1/#comment-99 wam Tue, 19 May 2009 02:01:22 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=274#comment-99 @Joey Baker: Re 4, The audience CRM - I'm working on a prototype, and it's more or less exactly as you describe, a friendfeed-style wire plus some CRM bells. I first want to get it going for really basic inbound links and referrers first, and then maybe add things like twitter followers, rss subscribers, email correspondents etc as the model becomes more clear. Re 7, Yeah, I am all about Jarvis's proposal for topic-centric pages, though I haven't built hardly any of them yet. But I think it goes to the heart of why newspapers have been struggling with revenue on the web. Newspapers have traditionally gathered and organized information through narrative and layout. The product is a trusted central place to find information about a topic (region, etc) and stories that help you make sense of the information by placing it in context. The narrative and composition of the page open a channel of trust between the publisher and the reader, and there's enough leftover bandwidth in that channel for well-designed broadcast advertising. The web, by being linky, inverts the whole thing. Because we click all over the place when we're looking for news and skim articles, we're constantly writing our own narratives to make sense of it -- more than we do with print. On top of that, the compositional aspect of newspapers doesn't translate well to the web. Ads make sense in the context of the book, not in the context of a single story. The channel of trust opened by a web story is too narrow to shove a crappy banner ad though. And as a programmer, I'm always looking for ways to make it narrower--by disentangling the data from the narrative to some extent and trying to make it more sharable with fewer restrictions. And yet, as Scott Karp says, at the end of the day, you don't want to buy the car parts, you want to buy the car. You want something to help you understand what's going on. Narrative is still a great tool for doing that, but we need to organize it in such a way that it respects the fact that on the web, the reader has more agency in assembling information. Web shells or topic pages seem like a promising stab in the right direction, and may also have the effect of opening the channel a little wider, so as we can sell the extra room to the highest bidder and buy 30" monitors and food. Re 1, classifieds. Please steal this. I have little hope of actually building it. @Joey Baker:

Re 4, The audience CRM – I’m working on a prototype, and it’s more or less exactly as you describe, a friendfeed-style wire plus some CRM bells. I first want to get it going for really basic inbound links and referrers first, and then maybe add things like twitter followers, rss subscribers, email correspondents etc as the model becomes more clear.

Re 7, Yeah, I am all about Jarvis’s proposal for topic-centric pages, though I haven’t built hardly any of them yet. But I think it goes to the heart of why newspapers have been struggling with revenue on the web. Newspapers have traditionally gathered and organized information through narrative and layout. The product is a trusted central place to find information about a topic (region, etc) and stories that help you make sense of the information by placing it in context. The narrative and composition of the page open a channel of trust between the publisher and the reader, and there’s enough leftover bandwidth in that channel for well-designed broadcast advertising.

The web, by being linky, inverts the whole thing. Because we click all over the place when we’re looking for news and skim articles, we’re constantly writing our own narratives to make sense of it — more than we do with print. On top of that, the compositional aspect of newspapers doesn’t translate well to the web. Ads make sense in the context of the book, not in the context of a single story. The channel of trust opened by a web story is too narrow to shove a crappy banner ad though. And as a programmer, I’m always looking for ways to make it narrower–by disentangling the data from the narrative to some extent and trying to make it more sharable with fewer restrictions.

And yet, as Scott Karp says, at the end of the day, you don’t want to buy the car parts, you want to buy the car. You want something to help you understand what’s going on. Narrative is still a great tool for doing that, but we need to organize it in such a way that it respects the fact that on the web, the reader has more agency in assembling information. Web shells or topic pages seem like a promising stab in the right direction, and may also have the effect of opening the channel a little wider, so as we can sell the extra room to the highest bidder and buy 30″ monitors and food.

Re 1, classifieds. Please steal this. I have little hope of actually building it.

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Comment on 10 Ideas I Want to Try at the Newspaper Where I Work by Mike Riggs http://freepizza.cc/2009/03/14/10-ideas-i-want-to-try-at-the-newspaper-where-i-work/comment-page-1/#comment-98 Mike Riggs Mon, 18 May 2009 23:53:41 +0000 http://freepizza.cc/?p=274#comment-98 I had someone ask me today if they could subscribe to an RSS for listings. We need a way to take the information to the consumers, not the other way around. Email newsletters are a step in the right direction. I had someone ask me today if they could subscribe to an RSS for listings.

We need a way to take the information to the consumers, not the other way around. Email newsletters are a step in the right direction.

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